The “crisis” that never comes
The recent deficit talk has people rightly concerned about whether or not Congress and the President have the cojones to bring our fiscal house in order. There are basically four ways to cut the deficit: grow the economy, cut spending, raise taxes, or print money.
Option one is the fun way to get out of it. If we sell more goods and services, government collects more taxes while citizens make more money, and everybody’s happy. However, the economy right now is growing slowly.
Options two and three are where all the debate is happening. However, political risk is frightening most politicians from addressing the beasts of healthcare and Social Security that need to be tamed for any real progress to be done.
Which leaves option four as the default way to pay. If Congress does nothing to fix the deficit, the government can “print money” to devalue those debts, which drives interest rates up and the dollar down. Bad for savers. Good for debtors.
While you might understand how all that could eventually affect inflation and the prices you pay for goods, you might be left scratching your head about just how much of a knock on your savings that last solution could translate to.
Here’s an attempt to explain it without getting too wonky or insulting your intelligence. But first, let’s set one thing straight.
Inflation is not here yet.
I’m kind of tired of the “is there or isn’t there” inflation debate going on right now. The government’s official inflation measure showed that prices rose by about 1.6% over the last 12 months. Food and energy prices accounted for more than two-thirds of the increase.
Inflation of less than 2% is extremely low, especially when you’re including food and energy prices, which swing up and down sharply based on crop yields, hurricanes, etc. Critics like to counter with nice-sounding anecdotes about how their personal grocery bills are rising. But even if we were to accept anecdotal evidence as valid, there’s reason to think those anecdotes are wrong.
Here’s the average grocery store purchase at a Hy-Vee in Des Moines, according to Mint:
This chart is based on data aggregated anonymously from over 4 million Mint.com users.
Go to Mint’s data feed yourself and play around. Grocery bills aren’t going up. Unless people are eating less, or deciding to make multiple trips to the store in order to keep their average order down (diabolical!), it’s simply not true that grocery prices are already on the upswing.
But it could happen soon. As the WSJ points out today, the prices for some things are rising faster, and inflation is already much worse in places like China, where there’s not a bad economy to weigh against price increases.
I’ve written before about good and bad inflation fighters. But today, I want to write specifically about how rising interest rates could affect stock prices.
Starting with a risk-free rate of return
If you wanted there to be no chance for your investment to lose money, where would you put it? FDIC-insured bank accounts come to mind, but you’d do slightly better by investing in 10-year Treasury bonds, which yield about 3.6% a year right now. Don’t get me wrong. If interest rates rose while you had your bond, the price would go down in the interim. But as long as you held onto them for the entire 10 years, you couldn’t lose a dime unless the federal government were to default.
That’s about as close to risk-free as investors can get right now. And that means that anything they invest in that carries more risk needs to pay out more than 3.6% a year to make sense as an investment.
The bonds of Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway, for example, would seem to be extremely safe. It’s a big, established company that’s generating a lot of cash. But the yield of a Berkshire bond I’m looking at that matures in 2021 is 4.2%. That means that as safe as Berkshire is, investors want another 0.6 percentage points to take on the ever-so-slight risk that Berkshire goes belly-up before the bond matures.
As you can imagine, once you start getting down to auto companies, those bond yields start to get really high.
What it means for stocks
Stocks also have a yield, though personal finance magazines like to make it appear more complicated than it actually is. The “price-to-earnings” ratio that you read about all the time is really just an earnings yield in reverse. A stock with a P/E of 15, for example, has an earnings yield of 6.7% (1 divided by 15).
Since stocks are more risky than bonds, investors want to pay a price on a company’s stock that reflects the additional risk they have to take on. The price-to-earnings ratio of Berkshire Hathaway, for example is 17.6, which translates into an earnings yield of about 5.7%. (Admittedly, a P/E isn’t the best way to evaluate a holding company like Berkshire.)
So, what happens when the interest rates on Treasury bonds rise? Let’s say the interest rate on a 10-year Treasury bond went to 10%, as it was in the early 1980s.
An investor could earn 10%, while taking no risk, by buying Treasury bonds. So if he considered buying a stock, which carries a lot more risk, instead, he’d want to get a yield that’s better than that.
The earnings yield of the S&P 500 right now is about 4.3% (which is a P/E of about 23). So to get even close to the 10% yield of a Treasury bond, you’d need stock prices to fall by more than half.
In reality, the drop would be much less sharp—earnings would rise, too. But P/E compression, as the phenomenon I just described is called, is a very real fear that investors haven’t had to face for 20 years, since during that time bond rates kept dropping.
Long story short…
If investors fear inflation, and start to demand higher yields from Treasury bonds, that will mean that stock prices will have to make a corresponding drop, all else being equal. Stocks have benefited from a 20-year or so long-term drop in Treasury yields. But that party’s over.
Is there anything you can do to protect yourself from it? Not really. You could choose stocks that already have low P/Es, with the idea that those prices won’t compress as much when interest rates rise. However, buying individual stocks carries so many other risks, that it’s probably not worth your time, effort, or emotional fortitude to go through all that.
It’s just one of those things that you should save more to prepare for and to understand once it does start to happen. This deficit monster is probably going to extend its tentacles into more aspects of our finances than we can even conceive of.
I, for one, am hoarding piles and piles of gold bullion in an undisclosed location. So when Zimbabwe-like inflation causes food riots, I can…eat it…or something.
{ 2863 comments… read them below or add one }
← Previous Comments
One thing I would like to comment on is that weightloss routine fast can be performed by the proper diet and exercise. A person’s size not simply affects the look, but also the general quality of life. Self-esteem, major depression, health risks, plus physical abilities are affected in putting on weight. It is possible to make everything right but still gain. Should this happen, a condition may be the culprit. While a lot of food but not enough exercising are usually to blame, common medical conditions and traditionally used prescriptions might greatly increase size. Thx for your post right here.
One thing I’d really like to say is before acquiring more computer system memory, check out the machine directly into which it will be installed. Should the machine is usually running Windows XP, for instance, the particular memory ceiling is 3.25GB. Setting up in excess of this would purely constitute a waste. Make certain that one’s motherboard can handle the actual upgrade amount, as well. Thanks for your blog post.
Yesterday, while I was at work, my sister stole my apple ipad and tested to see if it can survive a forty foot drop, just so she can be a youtube sensation. My iPad is now broken and she has 83 views. I know this is totally off topic but I had to share it with someone!
I do not even know the way I stopped up here, but I assumed this submit used to be great. I do not understand who you might be however certainly you’re going to a well-known blogger if you aren’t already
Cheers!
I just could not depart your web site prior to suggesting that I really enjoyed the standard info a person provide for your visitors? Is gonna be back often to check up on new posts
okmark your weblog and check again here regularly. I am quite certain I will learn lots of new stuff right here! Good luck for the next!
Your enthusiasm makes this post unforgettable!
Thanks for giving your ideas on this blog. Also, a fairy tale regarding the banking companies intentions while talking about foreclosure is that the bank will not getreceive my repayments. There is a degree of time the bank requires payments from time to time. If you are far too deep in the hole, they may commonly demand that you pay the actual payment entirely. However, that doesn’t mean that they will have any sort of installments at all. In case you and the bank can seem to work anything out, this foreclosure process may end. However, in case you continue to neglect payments wih the new strategy, the home foreclosure process can pick up from where it was left off.
I have read some good stuff here. Certainly worth bookmarking for revisiting. I surprise how much effort you put to make such a great informative site.
Excellent website. Plenty of useful info here. I?m sending it to several friends ans also sharing in delicious. And obviously, thanks for your sweat!
Hi my friend! I wish to say that this post is awesome, nice written and include approximately all important infos. I would like to see more posts like this.
This post shows why your blog stands out from the rest.
Hiya, I’m really glad I’ve found this information. Today bloggers publish only about gossips and web and this is actually irritating. A good website with interesting content, this is what I need. Thanks for keeping this site, I will be visiting it. Do you do newsletters? Cant find it.
← Previous Comments
{ 1 trackback }